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Wednesday, February 08, 2006

My Swedish Colleague Believes I Will Burn Him Alive!



Jeehan the Terrorist!

Let me begin from the start, as in when the issue of the Danish cartoons depicting the prophet (peace be upon him) suddenly jumped to the first page of all newspapers! David, my Swedish colleague (yes the one who gave me The Family Guy DVDs to watch), started discussing “the issue” with me last week. David, an Atheist, wanted to discuss freedom of speech and religious icons. To him, freedom of expression means freedom to say anything, regardless if you hurt or upset anyone and even if you ridicule religious beliefs and symbols . Freedom, of course to him, translates into no limits.
On the other side, I believe in freedom of speech but under one condition: stay respectful of other feelings, especially the religious ones. I also believe that if you endorse freedom of expression, you should endorse it against ALL topics.

For a couple of days, David would start the day by asking me about my opinion on the latest escalated response of the Muslim world.

I was vocal with not few people, including David, on what I think about what’s happening.

I love the prophet (peace be upon him) and I condemn the cartoons and many others things, and that’s why I am boycotting both the Danish and the Norwegian products and plan to boycott many other European products if needed. I also condemn the burning of the flags, the death threats and the burning of buildings. Violence never helped a cause; it just turns the criminals into victims.

In one of our discussions, David claimed that the Swedes will never get involved in this escalating issue as they are a very peaceful and easy-going nation. Yesterday, I learnt that some Swedish publication has not published the offending cartoons but started their own competition to get new cartoons in! I sent the link to David and another discussion started. As I thought that conversation was light-hearted, I started to joke with David, so I warned him that I will burn him now that the Swedes are in the mess. We continued for few more minutes and then the chat ended.

I believe now that working with someone for eight months does not mean that this person would know when you joke or not. Especially if they come from a different culture and have predetermined views about your own culture and beliefs. You see poor David thought that the threat was for real! He told another colleague that I am getting obsessed about these cartoons and the extremist in me has come to surface as I threatened to burn him alive for the fault of a publication which happened to have the same nationality as his.
(Hmmm...Anyone has a lighter??)

The funny part in all of this is that while I am being called the obsessed with these cartoons, I am the one who got an email today from David about a European article commenting about the cartoons and the Muslim world. Is it an obsession that you actually read the newspapers and that’s the main piece of news in them? Or maybe because I am a practicing Muslim that I am immediately labeled as an obsessed and naturally a terrorist!

The culture and civilization clash will always continue. Most Westerners (notice I didn’t say the Christians!) will always think that the Muslims (again notice I said Muslims as Islam is a way of living not just a religion!) especially those devout, to be ignorant, violent (look at the burning of flags!), stern, rigid, and oppressed. Most Muslims, on the other hand, will always think of the Westerners to be ignorant, violent (look at the American wars!), self-centered, obnoxious, immoral, and closet-bigot.

Then not all are that way of course. I have many good friends from the West. The relationships work because we are free to tell each other anything and everything but then we RESPECT each other opinions and do not intentionally or non-intentionally, using the freedom of expression that we have together, hurt each other’s feelings.

In my (humble) opinion, it seems that the Westerners who are "standing up" for freedom of expression, can not fathom that for Muslims, the Prophet is the man who received divine words directly from God. We do not see him as they see “their” prophets as some historical figures who do not fit with the new advanced world. We Muslims live our religion. They do not, and have lost their faith over the centuries. The Westerners think they can do the same to other religions and they don’t understand why they are not allowed to make fun of the prophet (peace be upon him).


So World, If You Find David’s Body Burnt Till No Flesh Is Left, Don’t Blame Me Except If You Have A Video Of Me In The Act. Beware I Watch LOTS Of CSI’s! (That’s Crime Scene Investigation for those who don’t know!!)


Lesson to learn: Joke with people who have your sense of humor! Otherwise it’s just wasted!


Is There Really Freedom Of Expression??

You know what bugs me most about this Danish Cartoons issue. It’s not the topic of the cartoons. Yes of course I am upset about the derogatory drawings. And yes I am upset because I think the reaction in other European countries was simply to enrage the Muslim masses, like bullfighters goading a bull.
But what upsets me the most is the double-standards these European countries live. They are for freedom of speech and expression when the issue is about Islam. But what do they do when it is about Israel? Hide their heads in deep sand like ostriches!

“Oh No! Not the Zionist Conspiracy!!”

Well… I have facts to support that in Europe you can feel free to express your Anti-Islam feelings but you can NOT be Anti-Israel!

FACT ONE:

In December 1978 and January 1979, Robert Faurisson, a French professor of literature at the University of Lyon, published two letters in Le Monde claiming that the gas chambers used by the Nazis to exterminate the Jews did not exist. World War III almost erupted then!

After publishing, Faurisson was assaulted by Jewish students. His classes were suspended on the grounds that the university could not guarantee his safety. As a result of a TV interview, he was found guilty of defamation and incitement to racial hatred and given a suspended 3-month prison term, and a 21,000-franc fine. In addition he was ordered to pay for the reproduction of the judgment in national newspapers and television. Lets just say that was NOT cheap! He won the appeal against that. In 1989, Faurisson was severely beaten and suffered a broken jaw, broken ribs, and head injuries.

FACT TWO:

Roger Garaudy aka Ragaa is a French Muslim (convert in 1982) thinker from a strong communist background. In 1998, a French court found him guilty of Holocaust denial and racial defamation, fining him FF 120,000 ($40,000) for his 1995 book, "The Founding Myths of Israeli Politics". The book declared that during the Holocaust, Jews were not killed in gas chambers.

FACT THREE:

Ahmed Rami, a Swedish Moroccan, has written and published four books. In these he gives convincing reasons for his opinion that in Sweden - as well as everywhere else in the West - the bases of national life are undermined. He is also the founder of Radio Islam. A few years ago, Rami was prosecuted for antisemitism and sentenced to prison, where he had to stay for six months. Curiously enough he has turned out to be the only political prisoner in Sweden.

FACT FOUR:

Alain Ménargues – vice-director of Radio France International – published his book “Le mur de Sharon” (“Sharon’s Wall”) in October 2004. He immediately found himself caught in an irrational saga. He was accused of “anti-Semitism” and was dismissed from his functions. Alain Ménargues remained on his stand saying later in an interview that he has invented nothing and that the Jewish State of Israel is considered legally racist by the United Nations.



I could go on and on…

But I think you can do your own research now!

Next time you fight for freedom of expression, ask yourself if you REALLY believe and stand with it in all cases and if your country does that way too!!



Lesson to Learn: Wear a Yarmulka And Then Burn David!


Now remember... don't play with matches! ;)

11 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

yes, that's what bugs me as well. the double standards when talking about freedom of expression . .

Take it easy on David!! He's the coolest. . If only the Arab world produced more free-thinking people like him!

7:15 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

U see that's the problem with Arabs.
We say something and they don't listen.

Hippo: did U not read the first paragraph in my comment. U obviously did not. I agreed with your friend on Europe's double standards.

I told her to take it easy on him because she seems a little harsh in her implicit assessment of him. She seemed to be talking about him not taking what she said as a joke.
But now I can't believe she was joking because you have proved to me that she was serious and "shouldn't take it easy on him". Confused people, arent the both of you?

You seem to be insecure in your definition of 'free-thinking'.

But do you even comprehend what I say? I doubt it, because most Arabs don't listen ,, even if they do have knowledge of some vocab.

It's really unfortunate that your comment is another example of an Arab who doesn't listen, is not willing to listen, and wants to accuse and blame others for their personality failures and personal weaknesses. It's a shame.

But then again your problem could be that you are under 22 years of age, and therefore immature anyway.

1:45 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If muslims like yourself worked on chilling out and only triedto shout less when they are "arguing" or "debating", then maybe people around the world would listen to them.

I don't even know if you (Hippo) know what you are discussing with this person Abbass. I can literally see you screaming and getting hyper about this person, just because he may, or may not, qualify to your religious standards.

Yes, so you're below 22 years. It's patently obvious, to any one who will read your immature rantings.

You obviously also don't have a sense of humor.

Shouldn't you have gotten married at 14 or something? You will make a terrible wife if you don't learn to chill. I hope Buddha helps your sorry future husband, poor soul that this guy is.

Et plus ca change, n'est-ce pas??

7:00 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the men commenting about Maturity:

Since when did age have to do with maturity?

Sarah R.

11:07 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Abbass, I think you are stereotyping Arabs because this phrase does not seem right. "You see the problems with Arabs. We say something and they don't listen."
Not all people are the same, so shouldn't be nagging and being stereotypic. However, stereotyping is a Western trait.

Mr. anonymous, if people like you only stuck to the topic and shared something relevant, and then maybe Arabs would actually listen to you.

If people like you only worked on chilling out themselves, then you would definitely be able to take a joke and also see Hippo's humor, but it seems like you just don't have any yourself.

You speak about Hippos immaturity but what is evident in that comment is urs.


Anyways, a true trait of an Arab, they are never scared to display their name...
Tarik
Number and location NOT WITHELD

11:51 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Abbass:
1st of all, change ur name cuz its an arabic name, and u dont deserve it, and just for your info, Abbas is the prophet Mohammed Uncle's name...

Everyone has the right to say what he wants "freedom of speech", but no one has the right to insult and offend any one...

i'll tell you something, now if you people say that what the Danish Magazine did was freedom of expresstion, then why did they refuse to publish a drawing offendin Jesus? u know why? because it would've offended all christian..

so what freedom of expression is that?

12:19 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

abbass told me to check u losers out. God he's right: U don't listen and you are a bunch of 7ameer

Stop giving our people a bad name you idiots!!

We've all had our Islamic Education classes, and he says he knows who 3abbaas is already. So don't tell us he's the prophet's uncle. Please go and teach people in Africa your precious islamic stories.

LOSERS!!!!!!!!!

11:39 AM

 
Blogger jeehan said...

3abboud...

your language is a clear proof of which 3abd u r.

Btw, who are your people? Why do you think YOU represent any group of people?
You think by calling us losers you can be a "winner"? Did Abbas see your reply yet? Cause if he did, I'd like to know what he thinks of the maturity level of your comment. Can you pass the message to him, since you seem to be the communicator on his behalf now.

3abboud...
Sana7shor ma3 man no7eb wa sto7shar ma3 man to7eb...
And lets see then who is the loser and who is the winner :D

Peace!

1:03 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

3abboud... you are the ma6iya of Allah knows who, since your species is undefined. (for those who do not speak Arabic, Ma6iya is a sumpter, and if you don't speak English, use a dictionary or ask Abbas, if he knows the Vocab)

Alhamdullah that the Islamic stories that we were taught are precious to us. At least some of us came out of those classes understanding what was taught. Do you even understand anything of Islam, that is if you are a Muslim?

Thank you for the advise to go to Africa to spread Islam. But Islam is spreading in Europe, the Americas, Australia, Asia and Africa thanks to Allah the All Mighty and then the efforts of the people who understood their Islamic teachings. It seems that we could do with spreading it back here too.

2:47 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Im really confused!

I cant believe that there are muslims who speak such a low talk!

3abboud al rais : if u really had Islamic Education Classes, u wouldnt talk like that. Islam taught me "rid el say2a bil 7asana" so all i will say is allah ysame7k.

newayz

as for abbaas: if u dont have the courage to say some thing, dont let ur buddy come blabber and talk cheap as if he knows every thing..

Ur People! mashallah! where is ur people??

listen, when u know how to have a good debate come here and talk.. but till then, enjoy ur screwed up life.

11:02 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Excuse me for the spelling. =)

11:03 PM

 

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